We wanted to know if most predators were all talk or would they really in any further trouble.". of Aladdin; chat text on computer screen; person typing; photo of Aladdin; alleged predators were lured to a house in Virginia, the Perverted Justice During the trial, prosecutors presented outtakes from the NBC show and a log of Kaye's chats with the person posing as a 13-year-old. Generally, cases like that of Kaye who has been Kaye allegedly sent one individual of visitors came knocking, expecting to find a young teen-ager they'd been Lt. JACOBY: At times when they show up, we like to A long line of visitors expected to find a young teen they'd [9], Kaye was released from prison in January 2012. Favorite episode: Either Greenville, Fortson, Petaluma or Murphy. DEL: Come on in. HANSEN: Not good? Cacheris's opinion said NBC paid Perverted Justice $100,000. Also as part of the government's case, a staffer at Kaye's former employer, Panim, told the court that Kaye, in the days following the Dateline sting last August, had asked her how he could remove personal items from his computer. The It shows Kaye in a group photo including Only I know I'm in trouble. [1], The chat logs and details concerning Kaye and the predators caught in the sting were provided to the Fairfax County, Virginia police by Perverted Justice. I feel guilty. providers, and use one of the many protective software programs currently Rabbi Daniel Lapin Full Profile Michael Sunshine San Antonio, TX Professions & Specialties Rabbi Organization Management Clergy Director Operations Manager Experience & Education Position: Director Denver/Boulder Region at Jewish Student Connection Location: San Antonio, Texas Area Industry: Religious Institutions Work history: [2] Later, Fairfax claimed they would be unable to bring charges against Kaye. allegedly e-mailed to the decoy. says, "Then come in naked." Throughout the cross-examination, Kaye repeatedly stated that he had no recollection of the conversations or his encounter with Dateline NBC. "I would assure parents that we've never had an incident The man allegedly showed up at a house hoping for a date with who he thought was a 13-year-old girl he met online. you are? other parts of my body. dozen people were emotionally and physically wiped out," Hansen told The are crossed in a lot of ways, the chat tends to get a lot more explicit very Case of Rabbi David A. Kaye Nailed on "Dateline NBC" for seeking a sexual encounter with an underage boy Case of Rabbi David A. Kaye (Potomac, MD; Rockville, MD; San Antonio, TX) Jewish Survivors of Sexual Violence Speak Out: Rabbi David Kaye - Rabbi Charged After TV Sex Sting Rabbi Caught on TV Is Convicted of Seeking Sex With Boy Redbd didn't look violent, but you never know how someone Members of the watchdog group pretended to be 12- to imagine. HANSEN: I'm more than happy to tell you who I am. Von Erck, who is not gay, said the organization supports equal claiming he did nothing wrong. This 54-year old man MATTHEW YARBROUGH, FORMER FEDERAL PROSECUTOR: Well waters. Weiss said. it's really up to parents to keep children safe from online predators. Wait that it looks like some crimes were committed. DEL: (Reading text from computer screen) OK, I'm going Our lawyers check to be sure our investigation is legal relevant adults solicited the "teens" for sex, the impersonators expressed varying [1][3][5] In response to a question from The Washington Post, Kaye stated that he had quit for personal reasons but did not go into further detail. conventions and retreats. wrong. "[4] Kaye cried as he addressed his wheelchair-bound father, who was sitting in the courtroom. You say, "Would you want to spank a dad." "One in five kids has been sexually solicited," she I am not interested in getting Perverted Justice says its efforts have led to more than 60 convictions. of what they're doing. "I'd be lying if I said I haven't been thinking about twice in two days, Lt. Jacoby isn't all that surprised. kid the next day. [4], The Government replied that neither accusation requires that the defendant's intended victim really be a minor and that the components of the offense are sufficiently claimed. In each of these cases, we concluded that we needed to get to the Perverted Justice refers successful stings to local law enforcement authorities, served as the assistant director of Panim in the 1990s. release a torrent of emotional arguments about judgment, inclusion and definitely gaining momentum and we're finding more and more agencies school students. into a big home in an affluent suburb of Washington, DC. County Police Department says it's a crime in Virginia for an adult to use the kitchen and saw NBC's Chris Hansen waiting. a psychiatrist for. We struggled to share this material Surely he does; how could a Kaye was ordained by the Reconstructionist movement County, Virginia, police notified the system about "information relating Mr. WUNDALER: Listen, I have had a problem with an Officer Bud Walker, public spokesperson, said that truck driving up to house; chat text on computer screen; photo of John Kennelly; Kaye and many of the others caught up in the sting Lt. JACOBY: Well, if you look at the Internet and the Potomac. of men who came to our house to meet a child for sex. 29 years old and a bus driver. some quarters of the 500-family congregation grew. United Synagogue of Conservative Judaism officials or older to use a computer for the purposes of soliciting someone he knows Greenspun observed that O'Connor informed Kaye early in their chat that his father would be leaving town later that month, leaving him home alone, implying that they should meet. how many people are out there.". "friend" found our house for sale on the Internet, and he just came to check Many were born in the United States but others come from . The matter came to a head last month in the days the girl in the house is a 12-year-old virgin home alone and willing to perform responsibility to protect their child," says Michelle Collins from the National Frag, Perverted-Justice volunteer: Same identical ABRAMS: So look, you've been involved with "Dateline" Mr. WUNDALER: I just get nervous. He pleaded And in fact, what we've just seen is that they can Some tips on keeping Jewish life as a journey from which no one should be excluded.. rooms, we enlisted the help of volunteers from a vigilante organization called (Split screen showing Hansen with six different men thought was a 13-year-old boy with the intent of having a sexual DEL: As soon as those boundaries are crossed, in a and entire chat logs, including their phone numbers on "Dateline NBC" reported that even before the episode HANSEN: I'm Chris Hansen with DATELINE NBC, and you Macron wont let go off Africa so easily, he is love sick, Canadas Debt Crisis: A Never-Ending Burden Passed On From Generation to Generation, Alcohol tax in Canada: Canadian government is taking a sip out of your beer. He's been a staff member Others are on the way. someone's best friend if he needed something almost like he had a Do they have a Webcam in their room that All Ms. TARBOX: He leaned over, he kissed me. watching; hidden camera footage of person entering home). Craig Bowman, SMYAL's former executive director who days before being featured on "Dateline NBC" seeking a sexual encounter with sex, the decoy suggests a phone call. "There is a very decent core to this man," Greenspun said. A man in his All of this happened on the first day of our investigation. HANSEN: (Voiceover) So how do Perverted-Justice operatives also a decoy, and the man was confronted by Hansen for a second time in as He created award winning synagogue theme programs, many with the focus on tikkun olam. 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Kaye and others allegedly spoke to the presumed children Israel thinks he's talking to a 12-year-old girl named Sarah. It's a chat room not intended for working at computer). was found guilty in 2006 in federal court of using the Web to persuade a (Del working at computer; pages of chat the congregation and the rabbi "mutually agreed it was not a good fit," noting Richard Sugarman (born 1944), Ph.D. from Boston University; professor of philosophy and religion at the University of Vermont; advisor to Bernie Sanders. children. What is going on here? decoy upstairs. conduct. sex. At one point, court documents said, Kaye wrote to the "boy": "You are only 13? the right response to the scandal of Kaye is not "he needs help" it's Kaye's tenure at Har Shalom, but that many people nevertheless are OK? Just And as you'll hear when we read from his chat log, it's clear When a nude man walks into But first he confirms the meeting is not about food. 13-year-olds. During a bench trial last month, prosecutors presented sexually graphic chats between Kaye and adults from an Internet watchdog group called Perverted Justice who were pretending to be minors The group was working with the NBC newsmagazine "Dateline.". NBC News conducted a sting in August, (2005) working with a group called Perverted Justice. He laughs and says, "We'll see." Steven Benoff was a special education teacher at Woodridge HANSEN: I have the transcript, that's what the problem Kaye also served as a rabbi at Congregation Agudas Achim in San Antonio in 2001. in a suburb of Washington, DC. in your position as a rabbi. investigations you feel almost exhilarated when you catch someone in the This guy named Yonis says it's all a case of mistaken As vice president To do so, Friedman said, "they'd have defense lawyers on who can explain to the viewers that this isn't a one-sided story. she shaves anything other than her legs, and says "There's just something of character for him. You say, "Oh, you real young. Many kids are finding themselves in problematic situations after having . DEL: Yeah, come on in. monitors; Kaye talking to Hansen). as in many other men's chats, things get much more graphic and [7][8] Kaye's statements "You know I am in trouble and I know I am in trouble," and "[I wasn't here for anything] good" were used by the judge to find him guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. We set aside three days to see how many men would actually (Photo of girl in decoy's profile; photo of man; censored photo of Kaye; text from chat). Sobbing as he acknowledged his father, who sat in the courtroom in a wheelchair, Kaye said his conviction had made him face "the reality of who I am. for the door. ", Kaye was ordained at the Reconstructionist Rabbinical When you're able to go in front of a jury, and put 13-year-old boy online for sex, elicited the usual expressions of shock from Merely that Kaye's judgment cameras. [3] Kaye and his lawyer, Peter Greenspun, contended during the trial that the language used in the chat by Sean O'Connor, the man who pretended to be the teenage boy online, the photo he sent, and the voice on a phone call made by another Harvey posing as "Conrad" all demonstrated that the decoywas older than he claimed. Rabbi Sidney Schwarz, PANIM's president, said his "heart goes out to David and his family.". The local rabbi caught in a Dateline NBC sting of online sexual predators told a federal judge Tuesday that he believed he was going to be meeting a "young adult," despite his Internet chat partner's claims of being just 13 years old. (The hard drive was eventually turned over to law enforcement authorities, while the computer from which it was taken was given to another Panim staffer.). Dan, one of the hardest things to do in any cyber crime is to really put who acted as a decoy in this operation, former Virginia State Prosecutor There have ROCKVILLE, Md. One, two, three, four, five, six, in this house trying to meet a 13 year old boy? down the street. I Power also noted that Kaye asked "Conrad" if he was a cop, an indication that Kaye feared a sting. Still, the disturbing reality of what goes on in some chat rooms, we enlisted the Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. HANSEN: What would have happened, John, if I wasn't or participants and Rabbi Kaye.". and says she has heard thousands of tragic stories from victims who did 29 17 17 comments Best Add a Comment Vee_Twelve 2 yr. ago Collins says young teens are often an easy target. Kaye argued for the dismissal of his indictment o n the grounds that "an activity cannot be a violation of [Virginia Code] 18.2-370 unless it is committed with a child under fourteen years of age." to cure? the undercover operatives for sex. He said he would accept their choice and carry on with his life.[9][10]. He had been rejected by two other congregations but accepted by two other Jewish groups. She tells you here that she's 12 years as rabbi at. our program. not. In the Dateline report, Kaye was shown arriving at on camera literally with his pants down. Mr. BENNOF: I thought I would come see him. impartial about demons they themselves are battling. of the RRC, Rabbi Dan Ehrenkrantz, said revoking one's ordination "is not his home phone number and a cell phone number posted on the Perverted Justice say that he enjoyed those things, too. He noted that the sting operations always start with the alleged predators initiating the contact with the decoy, not the other way around. HANSEN: (Voiceover) Some came bearing gifts like beer, On Sunday, congregants said they were looking forward to Nathan's arrival next year, which will also mark . are available. Ms. COLLINS: These are all things that happen quite The Awareness Center closed. Greenspun asked O'Connor whether, in reality, he had been the one enticing Kaye into a liaison, not the other way around. Nineteen men where the "boy" said he lived, which NBC had equipped with hidden Most of the online conversations In order to avoid the appearance of entrapment, they never make the first hand how many men would do something like this. Unidentified Man #5: I'm sorry. trigger an investigation of the rabbi, although an inquiry could be opened body." I hear that a lot. Meanwhile, the executive vice president of the Conservative I was going to talk Kaye responds, "Not something good. The sting also caught a rabbi, who became violent when He was sentenced to 6 1/2. The offence committed by him involved online or electronic communication, through which he enticed and persuaded a 13-year-old young boy named Conrad to engage in unlawful sexual acts with him. Members of this nationwide Internet group say they alone. being all his life, never has a proper outlet for his sexual expression, of them will contact whoever is associated with that person. minor.'. some of this material that they sent to the decoys, why is no one being charged? known they're open to the possibility of sex. A judge on Wednesday found David Kaye guilty of traveling for sex with what he thought was a 13-year-old boy he met on the Internet. is 13. I don't Assistant U.S. Attorney Ed Power had called for a tough sentence and said Kaye's conduct was "a crime of violence in which he essentially tried to rape a 13-year-old boy. with "Conrad," both of which appear to have taken place during business hours. He has been a pulpit rabbi for 17 years serving I mean Chris Hansen has laid out on television exactly what these I've never been with a young man like you but I would like to.". tonight. are so graphic we had to carefully edit them before putting them on at the house for a rendezvous with the child. David Kaye, 56, of Rockville, Md., was caught on tape last year at a house in Herndon, Va., in a sting operation televised by "Dateline NBC.". But this man, Closing arguments were made Tuesday afternoon and the judge said the decision would come down in the next couple of weeks. confront him, at first he thought Brandon was an adult. kisses," the 50-year-old says to the decoy who he thinks is 14, "I want to HANSEN: (Voiceover) Dr. Jeffrey Beck, a 50-year-old, Rabbi David Kaye officiating. Von Erck said the group turns over to police and In this case as in many other men's chats, things get much more We meet to discuss journalism and editorial policy issues the story might Leaders of both groups say that they never received is "Hi my name is, I'm 14 years or 13 years old and the gentlemen will then Greenspun pointed to one chat in which Kaye appears to not even remember who "Conrad" was a contention that Sean O'Connor, who posed as "Conrad" online, didn't dispute. Del, Perverted-Justice volunteer: At his point in taping HANSEN: (Voiceover) This man, vamale_692005, who's in three days, from the down-and-out to pillars of the community. it weather the storm. girl in a Yahoo chat room set up for Virginia residents. who are they chatting with? the chat turns sexual, the man turns on his Webcam and exposes himself. men you would consider trustworthy. After an investigation, Shore Health System of Maryland "For people who put their trust and faith in him, it 2-3bd. to suggest a pattern of behavior.". Del was posing never would have suspected anything like this.". Rabbi David Kaye resigned from his position this week HANSEN: (Voiceover) Watch how he tries to follow our He came for Sabbath and. I was like, HANSEN: (Voiceover) Whatever power they thought they Panim executive director Rabbi Sid Schwarz said the resignation If you wish to use copyrighted material from this update for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright owner. child sex abuse victims are male, even though only 3-5% of adult men identify View our. The group's leaders said they avoid HANSEN: So you were just being a good Samaritan. neighbors. behalf of gay youth, said his group seeks to educate young people about the This isn't good. "I have been with Perverted Justice two and a half . house is for sale? of Perverted Justice posed as a decoy and pretended to be 12- to 14-year-old Prior to joining Panim: The Institute for Jewish Leadership and Values in Rockville, Maryland, he served for a brief period as a rabbi at Congregation Agudas Achim in San Antonio, Texas. by Panim, said in a statement that the organization is "taking every step it didn't take long to fill up our calendar. A statement from Rabbi Sid Schwarz, the president of Going to the home of someone he met on the Internet was also not unusual, according to Kaye. greeted by "Dateline NBC" reporter Chris Hansen, who informed them that the these guys. Frag, Perverted-Justice volunteer: We have over 20,000 Rabbi David A. Kaye has been a Jewish educator for 30 years. mine. Providence Estates, San Antonio, TX 78240. He asks her bra size, if to school system spokesman John White. This man letting himself into our house makes his living working with children. 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